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Over a lunch with Linus

Päivikki Karhula

Being on the right mailing list at the right time ended up in spending about three hours over a lunch with a Finnish hero: Linus Torvalds. If you are not familiar with Linus: he is an acknowledged godfather of the open-source movement and the creator of the Linux kernel operating system. And just to let you know, credits do not motivate him – and he hates mobile phones.

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orvalds visited Finland to receive the 2012 Mil- lenium Technology Prize awarded to him by the Technology Academy Finland in recognition of his creation of a new open source operating sys- tem Linux.

Working for the good of people

Even without the Millenium Prize Torvald’s cre- dits are impressive. Just to mention some of them:

in 2012, at the Internet Society’s Global Con- ference in Switzerland, Torvalds was one of the inaugural inductees into the Internet Hall of Fa- me. In 2004, he was named one of the most in- fluential people in the world. In 2006, Time Magazine’s Europe edition named him one of the revolutionary heroes of the past 60 years. Hmmm.

And, in 1996, an asteroid was named after him.

However, Torvalds seems not to work for pri-

Linus Torvalds (left) receives his Millenium Prize from the President of Finland, Sauli Niinistö

Photo: Millennium Technology Prize, MediabankKuva

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zes, recognition - or even for money. - My work for Linux is not dependent on prizes, Torvalds underlines.

- Prizes do not motivate me. I enjoy working for things which are useful for people, tells Torvalds.

– This is not to say that I would not honor the credits I have received. I certainly respect receiving the Millenium Prize. With this money I can pro- bably send all of my kids to Standford Universi- ty, instead picking up one of them and giving him that opportunity.

Spontaneous organization

How the open source software development is or- ganized? The whole arrangement of software de- velopment is largely behind the network of skil- led programmers who may be volunteers or work for companies which invest part of their time on the development of Linux.

- It all seems to take place ve- ry spontaneous- ly, Torvalds desc- ribes. - We do not have a high- ly structured or- ganization rather we depend on the spontaneously de- veloped network of programmers.

Each new version of Linux is a re- sult of co-opera- tion between mo- re than 1000 pro- grammers.

- I make the de- cisions about the code which is us- ed. Decisions need to be made to enable prog- ress. This is actu-

ally the work that I am doing, Torvalds states. - Many practical decisions are also made on the producer level of the code. The one who actual- ly does the programming work makes the deci- sion. If you have an idea, you need to prove your idea works, by making it real.

- People also make mistakes, Torvalds admits.

- If a poor program is made, someone will ma- ke better next time. However, this model of de- velopment is not democracy. It is about making a good code.

Misinterpreted copyright

- Copyright is essential, Torvalds says. - It is also important that anyone who earns it gets credit for his work. Authors and creators of ideas need to be recognized and they need to receive credit for their good work. Ideas need to be protected.

However, I do not agree with the way this is do- ne in copyright legislation.

- The protecti- on period of the present copy- right legislation is too long, Tor- valds corrects. - Copyright is no more used to support authors, but to make fi- nancial profit. It was not the ori- ginal idea of co- pyright. Nor do- es the length of the protecti- on period rela- te to the periods of technological cycles. Just think of what dramatic changes have ta- ken place within Linus Torvalds

Photo: Millennium Technology Prize, Mediabank, Aki-Pekka Sinikoski

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the past ten years.

Open source software has its roots in open science. What could be done to the privatizati- on and high prices of publications and science? - A critical mass of academic institutions would be needed to fight back, Torvals explains. - Maybe some strong and prosperous universities, like MIT or Harvard could make a difference. Univer- sities should make joint efforts to support open science and open access.

Pragmatism and freedom movement

- I am very pragmatic, Torvalds underlines. - I understand that free software is like a religion for some people. These people may think I have made open source software an everyday, boring and technical thing.

- People have very different attitudes to the free software world, Torvalds describes. - 30 years ago there was a lot of idealism. ‘Information should to be free ‘ -like statements. The open source movement does not any more emphasize anta- gonism between commercial products and open

source world. And open source software has be- come commonly used.

In these days, a significant part of the deve- lopment work for Linux is done by companies.

How this unorthodoxy of open source ideology works without developing dependencies? - We haven’t seen conflicts of interests in our way of working, Torvalds states. - People have had fears that e.g. a million dollars sponsorship from a ma- jor IT-provider would have had an impact on our work. It didn’t.

- Neutrality is important, Torvalds points out.

- I don’t want to work for any Linux company.

In the Linux Foundation I work in an indepen- dent position. This arrangement also guarantees that no one needs to see the Linux Foundation as a threat. &

Information on the writer

Päivikki Karhula, editor Signum

Email. Paivikki.karhula@gmx.com

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